MISCELLANEOUS PAY-TO-PLAY COMPANIES
There are so many companies springing up it's hard to keep track! These are the ones that have either contacted us through spam myspace emails or have contacted our friends from the "Stay Away from Pay-To-Play" site. We still believe it's best to keep the harder facts on our own page. These companies have all contacted us first, we did the research, we're sharing it with you, it's up to you to make the call. Read through the whole thing or select the appropriate section.
BATTLES OF THE BANDS - CD COMPILATIONS - SHOWCASES/A&R REPS - OPENERS FOR NATIONAL ACTS
GORILLA BATTLE OF THE BANDS: GORILLA BATTLE OFFICIAL SITE and of course their Gorilla myspace site. These guys are based out of Cleveland but don't worry, they'll get to you too eventually. When they spam myspace email a 23 year old band (that would be Girl Trouble, 5 albums, US, Canadian, European tours) to play one of their Sunday Battle of the "unfortunate" Bands shows in Olympia at a club we've played many times, paying attention to detail doesn't seem to be their strong suit. Here's the Girl Trouble "rep" ALAN FROM CLEVELAND. The prizes for this one are pretty lame. In fact, this is the cheapest of the Battles. If you win you get $500 (even though you turn over more than that in ticket money!), 20 hours recording time (big deal!) and your demo sent to major industry hotshots (they mail your CD-R). This one has been really heating up lately and Alan has spammed from other accounts and, like Emergenza, now has a ton of reps to help him. There's Gorilla Emily and Gorilla Lindsay and Gorilla Meg and Gorilla Rob and Gorilla Troy and well, you get the idea. They all appear to be from Cleveland, even though they are running shows all over the U.S. |
JAM SOLID PRODUCTIONS: Jam Solid Productions has got so many myspace sites! Do you think they might be using them to spam bands? This company was formerly known as Rock Hard Entertainment (which also didn't have a real great reputation and hosted the "emergenza style" Rock Hard Talent Conquest - yes, that's "conquest" not "contest"). It appears that they run the "battle" style pay-to-play shows. Our friend Nick P. from the band The Kidney Snatchers, gives us a "heads-up": "Hey guys, I'm in a band here in Cincinnati, Ohio. A few Months ago we played a show for someone called Jam Solid Productions, at the Mad Frog. Ever heard of Jam Solid? now that i have read all your info on pay to play shows, that show matched the criteria exactly. nothing worked out for us then. we played an awesome set, despite the set backs. but anyway, i would just like to say thank you for what your doing. you guys don't have to look out and warn other people about these scams, but you do any way. thanks. Peace, Nick P." JAM SOLID UPDATE March, 2008: The Jam Solid Website doesn't seem to be working. We have been told that Jam Solid is going to TV Court with a band that felt rather cheated on "winning" one of the Jam Solid BOTBs. We can't wait! More as it develops. |
| SUPERNOVA: Our friend JohnnyO from the band 3 Inch Max has alerted us to yet another pay-to-play Battle of the Bands. This one is a Canadian company who are moving South to con bands into their lame Battles. Same old senerio. I'll give you the link to their FAQ page. Like a few other battles they suggest you don't have to sell tickets, BUT how the hell are you gonna get any votes if you don't? So why bother in the first place? Here's an old myspace group that wasn't very happy with them called Anti-Supernova. Of course it's old information, but it goes to show that these guys have been around awhile not making friends. Steer clear of this one. |
ILLUMINA RECORDS / ROCKERS FOR LIFE: Start off with the Illumina Talk site and be sure to check the blogs AND HERE WAS GIRL TROUBLE'S OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH ILLUMINA... UPDATE March, 2008: We've noticed that all the Rockers For Life and Illumina related myspace sites are stuck on 12-20-07 or before. We are hoping that this might be a sign they've run into trouble, but it's wise to never count these companies out. They often re-surface. |
LBM MUSIC ZINE: Thanks to Jamie Desoto of the Denver band Holley 750 who sent us this one. Much like Illumina Records (although without the "It's for charity" schtick) LBM MUSIC ZINE offers you the chance to "pay to be on their CD compilation". You also get the thrill of being featured in their (web) magazine. They contacted Jamie with the same old flattering spam email ("We were checking out bands and found you, we think you rock, you'd be perfect for our comp, we'd like to interview you") that can be so deceiving to new bands who don't know any better. Of course our pal Jamie didn't buy it for a minute. When he sent an email that simply read "And how much will that cost us?" they sent the stats. Package 1- * $650.00 (3 Mp3¹s includes web banner +interview on Website and 50 comp cd's) |
QUICKSTAR PRODUCTIONS / CHILL OUT: We got two we'd never heard of from David D'Alessio of Tucson, Arizona. Being on the acoustic end of the spectrum, David is getting spam that hasn't gotten to us yet, although it no doubt will. The first one is QUICKSTAR PRODUCTIONS. They also have 16,000 friends on myspace. Quickstar (or Quickbuck as David calls it) has different package comps you can pay for in several different genres. "Chill Out" is for acoustic acts, "Vs. the World" is for indie, "Eleventh Hour Confessions" (who came up with these titles!?) for emo and "Downtown Metal"...well you get the idea. Even though the prices are lower ($150-$200) than dealing with Illumina, obviously these guys are really trying to get as many acts as they can. Love the references to Best Buy and Wal-Mart. Watch out for any company that sends flattering spam email that starts off with "I was very impressed with 'Your Song Here'." Yeah, right. Read David's blog and see that no matter what kind of music you play, there will be some company attempting to ruin it. Hey David, |
| SERENDIPITY SOUNDS: David D'Alessio (see above) also send us a heads-up about this one that it based out of Chicago. Serendipity Sounds has a myspace but the EVERYBODY ON SONICBIDS already got wise to this one. I love it when you look up a pay-to-play company and they haven't been on their website since 7/16/07. We're listing it here in case the start up again. |
PAY-TO-PLAY SHOWCASES and A&R REPS
Major label A & R representatives will be at a show looking for new bands to sign. They will evaluate bands at a local club. The band is required to sell a quota of expensive tickets, or pay expensive fees, to the showcase for a chance to perform in front of major label representatives. The shows are typically poorly run and it’s usually clear by the end of the night, there are no record deals. Companies also set up showcases in major cities (such as Las Vegas) where a number of bands will be “selected” to play shows for major label representatives. The fees for these showcases can run anywhere from $1000 to $2500, not counting the expenses in travel and food. These shows are held in cheaper venues, amateurish and the only label reps are from the company that hosts the showcase.
A & R CONNECTIONS: A & R Connections is a pay-to-play company that hosts showcases (pay-to-play shows) where you'll supposedly receive time with an A&R rep. The Seattle band, Tripnine, has an amazing blog devoted to a protest against this company by the band Stabbingback. It's a very informative must read for anybody contemplating dealing with this company. When it mentions "payment options" on the registration form, that's not a good sign. They have a myspace site (although currently a lot of the comments are about free ringtones) and here's their "mission statement" (with my bitchy comments)... The A&R Connection is the most reputable music industry resource (even though you've never heard of us) dedicated to helping artists achieve their goals (for a price, I'm sure). We provide direct access to the top music industry executives in the industry (and they would be...?), allowing artists to get their music heard! The demand for quality music is phenomenal. We are in constant contact with the top labels (who are...?) across the globe, assisting them in their search for the stars of tomorrow (Oh God, not that old "stars of tomorrow" line). A&R Connection offers artists the most effective way of marketing there talent (FYI, this is probably just a typo but the correct useage is "their" talent, a possessive pronoun). We specialize in showcasing (ah, the old "showcase" line) local area talent to the top record label executives (who are?) in an up close and personal (oh yeah!) setting. The A&R Connection takes pride in every program that we offer. With our Interactive site, Unsigned Artist can now create a password protected profile (it's called myspace, it's easy to use and free to everyone), and upload there music, (again it's "their") pictures, and bios promoting there (somebody needs to go back to grammar school!) art to the Top major record labels in the Industry (and again, these would be?) as well as there (okay, now this is just ridiculous!) fans. The Record labels will be able to leave them comments (because record label execs have plenty of time to leave expert comments and ratings for new bands) and actually rate there (I'm giving this author a D grade so far!) music in different categories! Also fans will be able to become members of A&R Connections, and search for the hottest Unsigned talent in the world, joining there (okay that's it, it's an F for you!) favorite bands email list, receiving show dates & times as well as album release’s. All of our memberships are free! Our service provides one of the highest response rates available in the industry (where can I see this rating?). We are dedicated to the success of aspiring singers, rappers, songwriters, musicians and performing artists. Promoting the talent of tomorrow (talent of tomorrow, stars of tomorrow, suckers of tomorrow...), helping there (could somebody help you with grammar?) career, obtaining awareness in the Music Industry. You will find the A&R Connection to be accurate (except for spelling), resourceful and informative with today’s Music. We are committed to providing artists with the most accurate (con job) and up to date information available. Browse all the following web pages to see how we can help you (waste your time)!!! |
| NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL (NYIMF): NYIMF claims to be from New York, but their main showcases are often held in Las Vegas. This one appears to be winding down, even though they still mention upcoming events in 2008. It's worth mentioning just for the amount of money musicians were paying to participate ($1500 and more!). This company also works with aspiring filmmakers. Here's the guy that runs the showcases (special tip: Be sure to check out the Gallery on this site!). There isn't anything I can say better than this entire blog on Sonicbids. It really gets good about the fifth post from the top. Look for the post from "Fran" where the band The Sciannas were sent a letter entitled "CEASE & DESIST FROM USING OUR NAME FROM BEING ON YOUR WEBSITE IMMEDEATELY". I just about wet my pants. Man, you can't make this stuff up! Here's another detailed account from bass12. There is never a reason to spend this kind of cash to be "discovered". |
GREEN LIGHT FIRM (INDEPENDENT A & R): Here's a good one from the Seattle band, The Bullet Club. They got this spam email and I'm just going to repost the whole thing so anybody that hasn't gotten one of these phony emails (bands on the Moon) can see how guys like this operate. The Green Light Firm has a bunch of different affiliates (meaning they made several different myspace sites to look official, like they are connected to other "biggies" in the biz) such as The Fidelity Entertainment Group and Covert Management. From looking at their tiny website (CHECK OUT THIS INFORMATIONAL VIDEO!) they seem to be mostly interested in critiquing and evaluating you for $150. Wow, that sounds easy. I'm going to add my own critique to their email (in black type)...and I won't charge them a dime. "Hey Bullet Club, |
PAY-TO-PLAY OPENERS (for national acts)
These companies offer bands a chance to play before a big headlining act. This will be an amazing opportunity for your band to get a huge crowd, play with your idols, brag to your friends, meet some stars. Your band would be perfect for this show. It's all available...for a price. Sell a big quota of tickets and it's yours. How low can they go? This one is a good example. This seems to be festering in Arizona but don't count it out in any city. And there's one old "DIY" band listed that needs to have their punk rock membership cards revoked. Doesn't being a headliner mean you can draw the crowd without having bands pay-to-play for you?
ND PROMOTIONS: Our friend Matt of the Complainiacs sent me a link to a most unfortunate story by a band from Tucson, AZ called The Distortionists. Apparently a local company called ND Promotions (former rave club promoters, ND stands for Night Dance (here's ND Promotions myspace page), who decided to run a pay-to-play company when the techno thing fizzled out) is not playing fair in Arizona. Dangling the "opening for big acts" carrot and hooking it into the pay-to-play practice is popular in the birthplace of pay-to-play, The Sunset Strip. These two fine blogs by Distortionist's bass player, John Hayes, can give it to you better than I ever could. On NOT Playing O'Malley's 12/5 |
HELLFIRE:I A Josh of the Tucson band, Ding Dang Doo sent me this one. This is like a rash in Arizona!...These guys go under two names HELLFIRE and HELLFYER (although with only two myspace friends, one being Tom, it doesn't seem like this one is used much). Josh writes: I got an e-mail from a place called HELLFYRE PRODUCTIONS (their official website actually just takes you to myspace) in Phoenix AZ (we live in tucson about 1.5 hours away). We are setting up the Agent Orange show up here in Phoenix and we think your band would be a good compliment to them, give us a call as soon as you can (it seems there is a re occuring agent orange show theme here in az i hear they are coming back to tucson again and nd promotions is doing it). So on the off chance this shit is ligit I give them a call. My first clue was that someone other than the guy who emailed me answered the phone. Thanks Josh! |
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